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Hanging Out 4ever
We couldn’t find a therapist, so we started a podcast. After 7 years of dating we nearly came to a breaking point and decided it was time to try something new, to talk about our feelings and record them. Our podcast is not the highlight reel of our relationship, it is our relationship, as authentic as possible. Dating and long term relationships can be difficult. Especially, when the internet seems so focused on only happy moments. We share our truth and hope it resonates with you and makes you feel less alone in the dating/ Long Term Relationship world.
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-Aja & Grant
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Hanging Out 4ever
Sobriety, Dating and Staying Juicy in LA
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Addiction but make it comedy!
This week we talked to the one and only Juicy Mawma, comedian, content creator and 3 years sober girly- about her journey through sobriety, what partying in LA looked like for her, doing coke, drinking, and the realization that the lifestyle she was living was affecting every area of her life, including the men she was choosing to date.
If you are on a journey through addiction towards sobriety, this episode is definitely for you.
Remember, life is hard besties and we all have our vices, but that does not mean that we need to be controlled by them.
Stay cute, stay cool, stay safe, get sober, be juicy!
@JuicyMawma
Besties, let us know what y'all think on this one!
-Grant & Aja
What was like the transitionary period where you were like, I gotta get off the drugs?
SPEAKER_02I've always in the back of my mind known that I wanted to be sober.
SPEAKER_01When I was 16, I had like this friend group and they had convinced me to like the blunt with Adderall and then smoke it. What? Hold on, I've never heard of this. I'm not gay. I'm gonna say that.
SPEAKER_02But apparently I was that night, but I was like, I need to make a change. If I were to overdose with the people that don't know what's going on, like it would f them up for the rest of their lives during the time where you were addicted.
SPEAKER_01How did that manifest in who you dated? What's up, y'all? Welcome to the Hanging Out Forever podcast. My name is Asia Corin, your host, and today we have a very special guest. It is my homegirl, Juicy Mama. Hey, I'm Juicy Mama. Yeah, aka Meg, but aka Meg. And she's blowing up right now on socials. You guys have probably seen her, but if you haven't seen her, you're about to get to know her. And she's gonna be astronomical in the first in the next few years. So uh jump in now. Let's get on board. Emphasis on astronomical, thank you.
SPEAKER_02Period, period.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Okay, girl. So just tell us about yourself. Introduce yourself to the audience, and especially to your audience, too, who's also getting to know you.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. Okay, yeah. So um, my so government name, Meg. Hey. Um, but I go by Juicy Mama, and that is just like what I evoke is the juicy mama realness of it all. Uh, I am originally from the East Coast. Go birds, thank you so much. So you know where I'm at, Philadelphia. Hey. Um, and now I'm out here doing comedy and I got sober three. Oh here comes my cat. Come here. I specifically like requested for Kitty to be in this video too. So just so everyone knows, like, this is my girl right here. Right, mama?
SPEAKER_01Can they see her? They can see her from that camera. We'll come. Oh, beautiful, yes. So, yeah, you guys. She's a lurker. She does this all the time where she just comes up and she rubs her face against the side of a shoe or a boot. So we'll see if come on, mama. She won't. She that's just her. I literally love her.
SPEAKER_02My ADHD is literally immediately as soon as she ends up. Are you sure? You want to keep her? Keep her. No, she's perfect. She's gonna keep me grounded. Like, that's my number one fan right there. Um, okay, yeah. So juicy mama from the East Coast. I'm a comedian. I do stand-up, I do a lot of online stuff, and I've been talking a lot about my sobriety recently, um, which is so crazy. I, for those who don't know, I like posted this. I had this like photo of me when I was just like so cooked out outside of Zebulon, which is so funny. And I I look like Sam the Eagle. Like, if you look at the photo, you're like, I that is not the same person that's sitting here right now. Yeah. And I posted it because I was like, oh, like this will be funny. And then it blew up overnight. And then now I'm just like talking about my sobriety three years, February 27th is one of the years. And yeah, that's just like where I've been at and like what I'm doing right now.
SPEAKER_01So, like, what made you what prompted you to drop a funny video or like that photo of you being drunk? Not drunk, sorry, on Coke.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I well, it was both. Yeah, we were drunk, it was it was all the things. Okay. So I was like zooted for sure. Like I was gone in that photo, and it's so crazy. Like, I already have like naturally, like very dilated eyes. So does Grant in that, yeah, but in that, and so people always think I'm high even now, anyway, and even just based on my personality. But in that photo, yeah, I like people were commenting and they're like, I had to go to your profile to see that you have like green eyes. Like, I fully thought from this photo that you had like brown eyes because they were like it was my entire eye, it was crazy. But so I don't know, because do you know how like your phone will show you like here's like a memory from like a year's phone? Yeah, and it's supposed to be like nostalgic and beautiful, and like my memory was like me like so fucked up outside of Zebulon, and I was like, Oh, yeah, okay, cute. And so then I was just like for a long time, I was like really embarrassed of that photo because it's like so jarring to look at. But now in my point of sobriety, I can like look back at like my memories and like photos, and like that shit's so funny. Like, I was so fucked up. So I just like and this is how it always works, where like you will like post a video, not think anything of it, and then the next day it's like millions of views. It's like, how does that happen? And so that's basically what happened where I just like posted it. Like my like live reaction to seeing that photo. I'm loving that series, by the way.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. Because you have so many, no shade, but you got a lot of those. Yeah, I can make a gallery at this point. So, like, what how did you start getting on? I've never done drugs. I've done it. I did shrooms one time. Never done shrooms. I did shrooms one time when I was 16. I had like this friend group and they had convinced me to like lace a blunt with Adderall and then smoke it. What? Yeah. What? Yeah. Wait, wait, two of the polar opposite hold on, I've never heard of this. Yeah. So did you crush it up and then put it in? Well, this was at the time where Adderall was in like the little orange pill, so it was like all the little, it was like in a capsule, so you could open the capsule and then just drizzle all the meth on top of the blunt. What experience did you have on that? I have- You know, I wish I could remember it. Oh, you like blacked out from the totally blacked out. So, like, I it was my first time ever getting drunk, too. So, like, we were having this- You did both at the same time!
SPEAKER_03Damn. Oh shit! Oh shit. That is like the rainbow road of like getting fucked up. Like, you got into that shit.
SPEAKER_01It was like not cool. And it like the it was just a weird whole scenario because first of all, I was 16, so I'm at home at my mom's house. Right. I never was like a that kind of kid, I guess, to my mom. So I was like, oh mom, I'm gonna have some friends over. She was like, Okay, I said, we're gonna be in the basement, so like good night, love you. She's like, Okay, have fun. So then I ended up inviting all these people over to my house. And I had I lived in Atlanta at the time, so we had like this three-story house, so we had like a basement, so it was easy to sneak people in, they don't have to come upstairs and then go downstairs. And so I snuck them in through the back down store, downstairs, and we were just like all kind of getting drunk. And then this one friend was like, you know what we should do? He was a real seedy fucker, too, like really seedy, really shifty and shady. He had this like scene is crazy. No, it was fucked. And he had this like this um genetic defect where his eyes always did this, and they would never stop, like sober or drunk, he was just born this way. And so they would like shift around, so everybody always, you know, just I'm setting the stage. I'm setting the stage. Oh my god. And so he was like, you know what we should do? You know, we should, we should like lace this blunt full of Adderall. Because I was on Adderall at the time. Of course, he was the one that suggested it. I know. I was on Adderall all the time. So I took my ass upstairs. I was like, yeah, I have a whole bunch of those. Took it upstairs, gave it to him, he laced the blunt with it. And I was like drinking like whatever it was, vodka and mixing Gatorade and then drinking, smoking this blunt that was laced with um Adderall. And then I totally just like all of a sudden blacked out. And I woke back up like I don't know how many minutes later, but one of my other friends had taken me upstairs to my bedroom and put me to bed. Then his ass went back downstairs to my basement and kept the party going. You fuckers need to leave. Why are you still here?
SPEAKER_02Like the host of the party is like KO and they're like, let's keep going.
SPEAKER_01They were like, let's invite more people, let's keep this shit rocking. It was so insane. In like in childhood home. In my child. While my mother was asleep in her bedroom. So it was like, How did you? I I wasn't like a like a I wasn't the kind of kid you couldn't trust. So she was just like, oh, she's gonna have her regular people downstairs, no problem. I trust my daughter. And then you had a lace blunt. Laced that blunt full of the Addy. Wow. So I was on that type of time before it was popularized, by the way. And um, I remember waking back up and I was just like super drunk and fucked up. And I walked down the stairs and I went and I like literally had like an exorcism style vomit just all over the stairs. Oh and then I ended up going downstairs and everybody was like, Oh, you're you're back. I was like, Yeah, what's going on? And I'm not gay. I'm gonna say that. But apparently I was that night, because there was a girl there with a miniskirt, and I like I went over to her really weird and I put my hand on her knee and I went, so I was kind of giving what do you think about this? And I was like, Right. And so she just watted me away, and everybody was like, Why do you keep bothering her?
SPEAKER_03Anyway, long story short, I ended up getting this is like a trilogy. This is like a three-part series of the first time you got fucked.
SPEAKER_01I swear, I'm almost done. I'm finna wrap it up. Oh no, no, I love it. And so um, I had gotten so messed up that my friend at the time he was like, Okay, we have to tell her mom. So they go upstairs, knock on my mom's door, and they're like, Um, Asia's really fucked up, and I'm sorry. And we did this. So she brings me to her bathroom, and I'm like coming in and out of being blacked out.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01And she has no idea what's wrong with me. She he told her that we like laced a blunt or whatever, and I thought I was gonna die, and she thought I was gonna die. She threw me in the shower and turned the cold water on. Yeah, it was just it was insane. And then the next morning they woke up the next shifty guy, they were like looking for him because my brother came down from the city. He was like, I'm gonna fuck this guy up. They found him the next morning in a ditch. He was alive, but he was in a ditch. He just slept in a ditch because he knew my family was hunting him. So he was like, Gotta get out of here, and then slept in a ditch.
SPEAKER_02You have to write a book. Like, you have to write a book because that is like the most just like so many like people write like movies about this. I wish I had, I wish I had photos of myself from that night. Oh, see, here's the thing is like people say that to me, and like I'm like, I don't know if you do what about those photos. Yeah. Because a lot of people in comment saying they're like, I have photos from those, like that era, and I just like keep it in like my like locked, like that photo album where you have to like use your face ID to get into it. Oh, smart. And I'm like, okay, that's fair, that's fair. And then some people are like, oh, I wish I did. And like, I don't like, here's my thing with my sobriety and everything. Like, I don't regret anything about like when I got fucked up. I had a really good time, but it is like genuinely fun to see like all my sheep. I've loved the camera forever, so even I'm fucked up. Like, you see in the photos, there's one where like I'm in the club and I'm like actively like grinding my teeth, like in the photo. I'm like, and like to me, like at the time, I was like, Yeah, it's okay. Like, take a photo, we look good. And I look back and I'm like, what the fuck? What's going on?
SPEAKER_01It shows you like how warped your mind is when you're not gone. It's insane. So, like, what was your transition into doing coke and like getting fucked up in that way? Were you always like that? Like growing up, were you like, I'm like wild, I don't give a fuck, whatever. Or did something happen and you were just like you just fell into drugs?
SPEAKER_02No, I think so. It started because so I got drunk the first time when I was 16 too. However, it was sh twins, but it was and I got like really shit faced, but I didn't have the least blood to that at all. That is I've never heard that, and I'm so shocked because right up my alley. But damn, I mean, yeah, that was a wild time.
SPEAKER_01I've lived. Yes, you have.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I have at 16. I feel like is the time where everyone, I mean, I don't know, but like at least on the East Coast, like a lot of people I knew were getting like fucked up at like your first parties in high school and everything. But I was always like a rule follower for a really long time. So like the first time that I got drunk at a party was like it was like ceremonial. Like we all got dressed up. We're like, oh my god, we're going to like our first. It was like a big deal. Like, we went to like our first high school party. We were like, let's make jello shots and let's get, I think we got like Svedka and like Smyrnoff as like our no, it was Bacardi. Oh me and Bacardi were like this lemon Bacardi, I will ride for you forever. I'm like, I if they ask for a sponsorship, like I'll still do it as like a sober person. Like Lemon Bacardi, blueberry Bacardi, and Svedka is what we were rocking with. And so we were like, it was like celebratory, there she is, celebratory and um me shouting her out. Um, and we went to this party. Also, this first party that we had, I got shit faced out. I have like this selfie of me. Like, that's where it all began. I had this selfie that I took when I first got fucked up, and it's honestly a sickening selfie. Like I looked so I'll show it to you. And I think that's probably why I kept taking photos when I was fucked up. Didn't have the same effect when you become an addict and like have a problem. But when I first got fucked up, I was like, oh, this photo is cute. But here's the gag. So um at this party, um, there were a couple guys that we didn't invite because we just like didn't want them to come. And they dressed up as cops and came to like bust the party, and it was so scary. So a lot of us like took off into like the woods and like left and everything. People got like thorns like in their like body and everything. Like, I'm upstairs, like walking around. I'm so fucked up. Is that your house? This is at a friend's house. Okay, okay. And I had just gotten a pair of Doc Martins and I'm like walking around upstairs, my feet are heavy and shit, and everyone's like, Stop fucking walking, like the cops are here. And I was like, Oh my god, no. But anyway, so then in the downstairs, um, one of the guys who was like pretending to be a cop, we were all fucked up. We couldn't tell the difference between a real like and fake cop. Right. And then he's like, Is there an adult here? And the girl's like, actually, there is like my grandpa is sleeping in the other room. Do you want to meet him? And then he came in to go meet the grandpa, and apparently, like the grandpa was like like asleep and but looked dead, and it freaked him the fuck out. So he like darted out of the house, and then that's when we realized we're like, that was like a fake cop, like that was crazy that that happened. And then we continued on with our drinking. Okay, so that was the first time I got drunk, and so then drinking when you're from like a small town, I'm I'm from like a small town in like the East Coast, so like that is like what you do on the weekends, so that became like a regular thing. And then junior year of high school, we started going like hard on the weekends. Like, we would find parties in like multiple places, like we found parties in like this place called Schwanksville. There were these strippers that lived in the town that I grew up in who were getting evicted from their house, and they were like, everyone should just like come. We have like an open house, get fucked up. Okay, and like let's just wreck the place. And meanwhile, I'm like 16 at the time. I was like, Great, cool, like let's go party with these strippers. We were by far like the youngest people by like 20 years. What? It was like wildly inappropriate, but we still went because like that's just like what we did. And cops would come and bust that, and then we would go and leave and go uh shower in the Dunkin' Donuts sink. And we had to wait for I was crazy. I did, like, because we told our parents we were like, Oh, we're going to so-and-so's house, we'll be back in the morning. Well, meanwhile, the cops would come at like four or five in the so we'd have to like wait it out. But I was like tight with the girl who's the manager at the Dunkin' Donuts at the time. So we would pull up the Dunkin', she would make us coffee, give us donuts, and let you shower. We would shower in, like, just like rinse ourselves off in the sink, and then smoke a blunt with her, and then be like, Okay, cool. Like, now we'll go back to our parents. Like, that was like the beginning of like my era. So I had like a good ass time. College comes around. I went to temple in Philly, and it was just like we were just partying, getting our life. I had a fake ID. I was going out to the bars in the city having a good ass time, and I never did anything beyond like drinking at that point. Like, it was just a lot of drinking and partying, and then towards the end of college, blow got introduced, and I was like, Yeah, this that was back in the day when you could like be yes, right, and it was a good ass time. I was like, Okay, shit. So, like, we were doing well, and it was like cute and cool.
SPEAKER_01What was your first time with like Coke like? Cause I know most people, maybe not most people, but a lot of people these days are like sussed out about it because they're like, Oh, it might be fentanyl or whatever, whatever the case may be. Yeah, but I was not thinking it was probably like an issue back then.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I guess maybe not, but like, yeah, because it was like when I first got introduced to it, and obviously I was like a little scared, but I knew like a lot of people that were like doing it, so I was like, oh, this like might be fun and cool to do. And then I did it, and I like had just like such a good time. Like I had like the time in my life, like I was like, yes, like we're partying.
SPEAKER_01What does it feel like? I've oh okay, shh, okay, don't cancel me for this, besties. But I've always wanted to do it. Not so much now, but like when I was growing up, I dated a guy and he used to always do coke, and I just thought he was so cool. I went through a period of my life where I just thought it was so cool that people were doing drugs. The furthest I had done was the laced blunt, but then also I had done shrooms and then maybe like half a perk one time. Sure. But like that's all I've ever done. And so I was dating this guy, and he was like, he would just do Coke. And I was like, wow, that's so cool. He doesn't give a shit. Yeah, and he would never give me any. But this is like when I was like early, like 18, probably like 18. Yeah, like young. So, like, what was your first time like? I always see the movies where like, and it's like, oh my god, I'm so sexy.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's what I was gonna say is I feel like it's very romanticized, especially in like, you know, like television movies, like whatever it may be. Like, you like always think about like very posh people are doing like blowins, and then that that's how it's depicted in shows and everything. And then in real life, when you see people doing blow, like to your point, like you're like, that's so cool. Like, they're doing this, like they don't give a fuck, like whatever, and you want to do that too. Like, of course, like we've all been curious about different drugs. Yeah, I've never done Molly, I'm like so curious about it. But yeah, baby, no. And every time I tell people that I've never done Molly, they're always like, What? You would love it, and I'm like, that's the problem. Like, I can't do this. Like, I would be so but anyway. But my I had such a good experience doing blow, like it's very like euphoric. The thing that sucks is the high lasts for like 20 to 30 minutes, and then once you keep doing bumps of it, it's like you just keep going and going and going. And it like it's just like it's so euphorical. You just want to like talk and dance and like do shit. And it's like it's so crazy. Those are my favorite things. It is exactly. It's like the things that like you want to do when you're at a party and hanging out, and it makes it like such a good time. And so when I did it at this party, like I was having a blast. Like, I like met this guy, he was really hot, we were dancing, everyone's happy. Like, we're all just like you know, partying and having a good time. And so then after that, I wasn't it wasn't like a regular thing for me, but when it came out, it was like a special occasion type of thing, which I was like, okay, cool. This is like a special occasion thing, I don't really care. Right. But then when you start doing it more and more, and then it becomes a regular thing, and then it's like every time you're drinking, you're ordering a bag, and then it's like, oh my god, now it's not a special, now it's like this is a part of my routine. Right. So I think in that transition sort of happened when I came to LA, where I was just like partying a lot when I first got here. And great, I always say this like I don't regret anything. I had such a good time, like it was so much fun, but it like it just became like my norm. Right. And then it's like I'm craving it, and it was like it's such a weird, like when people get drunk and they're like, I want a cigarette, like that's I was like, I want a cigarette and I want a bag. Like that's what I want. Yeah, and it's it's too expensive, it's not good. And it like the crash and burn and that hangover is awful afterwards. So it's just like not a vibe.
SPEAKER_01Was there like a turning point that you were like, I gotta get off the do I call it blow? Sorry, I'm so corny. I've never I don't talk about Coke. Shackle's so I blow. Am I fucking dating myself?
SPEAKER_02No, blow, coke, whatever. Like it's people call it like booger sugar, like you know what I mean? Like there's all kinds of names.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01But what was like the transitionary period where you were like, I gotta get off the drugs and like alcohol also.
SPEAKER_02So this is like a kind of I've always in the back of my mind known that I wanted to be sober. Like that was always something where I was like, I need to do this at some point. And I think it really became solidified for me because when I moved to LA, like I moved here and I was like, I'm gonna do comedy, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, blah, blah, blah. And I was like not accomplishing any of the goals that I had sought out for myself. And I think I was just realizing that I'm being very dishonest with myself. Like I had this version and vision of myself in my head that I was like, oh, this is who I am, but I actively wasn't. Like I wasn't pursuing comedy, I wasn't like doing any of the things that I wanted to do. And I'm like, I need to stop. What's the thing that's stopping me fucking partying and getting fucked up all the time? Because I wasn't even just partying, like it was like fucked up, like like too much. And so I was like, I need to make a change because I know that I have like a greater purpose. And then the big deciding factor for me was when I went and I partied with some people, some loved ones, and I this guy at the bar had like slipped me a bag of blow. And normally, like, if like a stranger hands you like a bag of like that, like normal people would be like, I can't do this. This could be lace, like, this is like bad. But to me, I was like, Oh, I hit the jackpot, like I'd have to pay for shit. Immediately went in the bathroom, started doing it, met other people who were like on blow too, and we were just doing it together. And I like the people that I was with had no idea. Wow, that you got slipped that bag, got slipped that bag, didn't tell them. And so then I realized in my head, I'm like, I'm actively hiding this and lying to people about it. That's really fucking bad. And then another realization was like, if I were to overdose with the people that don't know what's going on, like it would fuck them up for the rest of their lives. And that is such like a and I just like in that I just had like this like moment where I was like, oh, I'm like actively being selfish, and like I have a horrible relationship with myself and other people because of me and my addiction.
SPEAKER_01That sounds so insane. Like this random spark of existential awareness while you're in the bathroom, right? Totally fucked up and these random people.
SPEAKER_02Like it like fully hit me like a freight train. And I always tell people with my sobriety journey, like, I don't think I ever really hit rock bottom, but I was like on the cliff looking at rock bottom. Okay. And then that that night is when I was like, I need to like stop now. And so when I came back from that trip, I was like, I'm cutting everything out. Like, I can't, like, I cold turkey every day.
SPEAKER_01Wow, yeah. That's crazy. Would you so you would say that you were addicted? I don't want to like prescribe language to you.
SPEAKER_02Mama, yes. Oh yeah. I was riding that wave hard. Wow. It was like weeknights, I'm just going hard. I was like, I found any reason to go out and get fucked up. Mama was addicted for sure.
SPEAKER_01For sure. I'm sorry, the way you tell stories is hilarious. What was it ever like a reflection of how you felt about yourself? Because you're saying, like, oh, I had such a good time, but then you had like this existential realization where everything around you felt bigger than the experience that you were having because you're starting to look at it in the context of other people's lives and how it's affecting your future. So was there a period where you were like the the lack of sobriety or like your addiction was fueling good feelings about yourself because you were feeling poorly about yourself, or you always just felt like fine?
SPEAKER_02I I I think I like like do. You think I like, are you asking if I like was like using the drugs to like mask like insecurities and stuff?
SPEAKER_01Not necessarily masking insecurities, but a lot of people get addicted to drugs because they want to feel something that uh I guess that they're running away from. Like, was there a part of you that you didn't like that you were like, oh, the drugs make me feel brave, the coke makes me feel strong and interested. Totally. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_02I think I've always been, and it now it's so crazy because I I have realized I've never needed it in the first place. Like I've always had this big personality. I've always kind of been fearless. I'm always extroverted, you know what I mean? But I think I, and I've worked a lot through therapy with this specifically. I think I used it as a crutch to kind of like uh like look over the the insecurities I had with like relationships and like myself and other people and like connection. I feel like I was like at first I started drinking and doing that stuff because it was fun, and then it bec like it became this like thing for me to do where I um it's so hard to describe, but it's like I was using it as a crutch for a lot of things, like I was using it as a way to like because in my mind I've always known I wanted to do big things, right? And that's scary. And I think I drank and partied to kind of just be like, well, I'll get to it at some point, but I was like, I was never doing it. Like and and then drinking became just like a crutch for me.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02Um, did that make any sense?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that totally makes sense. Do you do you feel so you came from a small town? Do you think that coming to LA kind of amplified your addiction to alcohol and coked because you felt like you had to fit in? Was there anything where it was like in order to be brave and conquer LA, I have to be coked up?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, I think what it because I went from being like the big fish in a small pond to then when I got to LA, the small fish in the big pond. You know what I mean? And that was like an adjustment for me. And a lot of it was because I was having a lot of fun, but at the same time, like I actively think that I was just like not, I had like a fucked up relationship with myself. Or I like wasn't in a good like self-love, I wasn't supporting myself, respecting myself. Like I was just like, and instead of like addressing that part of myself, I was like, let me just drink and get fucked up and not worry about it. And it showed because when I first got sober, like the first like couple of weeks, I was like, Oh, this is amazing. Like, I'm sober, like it's fine. And then you have to deal with like the emotional aspect of sobriety and like take on the problems head-on and like find solutions and everything. So then that's when I realized I was like, Oh, like I've been drinking and doing all these things for years because I never addressed like the relationship I had with myself and other people, and like I also like moved across the country and I wanted to conquer all these big dreams, but I that scared me at the same time too. So, like, what's gonna make me feel better is just continuing down, like it was just a distraction, honestly. Like, it was a distraction I kept going down because as I was drinking everything, I was like, Yeah, I'll I'll do comedy at some point and and I'll work on set at some point, I'll write at some point. But it was just I kept getting you get trapped in like a cycle.
SPEAKER_01You know, that's so true. Yeah, like when you are experiencing big feelings around doing something big, you almost need to do something bigger to drown out the bigness of everything else. Does that make sense? Totally. Like you feel so trapped in the vortex of how much larger the world feels around you that you're like, I just need to do something that doesn't make me feel small. I could totally understand that. Like I've dealt with suppression, and so there's been times where I'm like, I just gotta do something that doesn't make me feel like I matter, you know? Because it would put my life into context and it'd be like, okay, well, now I can go do this other thing because now I don't feel like so distraught about my own existence. Now I've like put it in perspective or whatever the case may be. But if you don't mind me asking, what do you feel like your relationship was with yourself at the time where you were kind of um in your peak of being on drugs and being addicted? Oh, it was so bad.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It was so bad and it's so crazy. But I've always like been like the the silly, funny, like big personality, but I think it got to a point with like drinking and everything where I just like was very much not like respecting myself. Like I had like I was like, you know, lying to myself about my addiction. I like had like I was treating other people poorly. Like I it just it wasn't like a good depiction of who I was. Okay. And I think I I've dealt with a lot of my insecurities post-sobriety, and I still am now. Like I'm obviously still working through stuff with um uh therapy and everything. But I think deep down I was just like very insecure. There's a lot of things that I didn't work through, and that's why I would get fucked up.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02And I think the biggest thing was I for me, like my relationship with myself, like I had to like accept the fact that like I just didn't deal with like rejection well. And I think that was another thing. And like not even with like people, but like with like my own goals and everything, and I had to like accept the fact because like fear runs everything too. And I think I just I was like so afraid of like pursuing the things that I wanted to do, and then it just created this like shitty like cycle within myself. So I just didn't have like this like healthy relationship with myself. Like, I honestly was just not even regarding like the things that I want, right, or like wanted, you know, like it was just such a bad time.
SPEAKER_01It sounds like you didn't have like a lot of like necessary, I wouldn't say that it's like self-hate, it doesn't sound like that. It's more like you just felt like kind of lost in life in general, and that led you totally down this path. So, how did that manifest in who you dated? Especially, you know, during the time where you were like addicted, what were your interactions with like men? Or are you bi? I'm bi. Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02Um, but I like dated a lot of yeah, guys. Um and it's so interesting. I actually like through therapy, I had a this is like many moons ago, but I I was having this session with my therapist. We started talking about like dating in my relationship with like the guys that I have dated, and she was like, huh, this is so interesting. Everyone you've talked about, you sound like you just never actually liked them. Oh and I was like, Yeah, oh I mean, yeah. And it's no shade to those guys, it's just they I in this sobriety, like the in the state that I am in now, like I would not have dated them. And it's it's just we're different people, you know what I mean? But at the time, and we talked about this. She was like, when you were in that mindset and you were getting fucked up and everything, I don't think that you were prioritizing the things that you actually wanted in a partner. I think you drank to kind of drown that out and you just wanted you crave companionship from someone. So you were willing to take it from whoever gave it to you. Yeah. Which is so weird to think about now. Cause it's so when I think about stuff when like my when I wasn't sober, it seems like I'm talking about like another person, another life. It's so different from who I am now. So the relationships that I was having with these guys was just very like surface level. It was just very like mostly like lustful, like there was no like real connection. Um and I just don't even think that we really I really liked them. I just wanted someone to like like I craved to be with someone for sure, but it's very different now. You know what I mean? So did you are you an only child? No, I am the baby of the family.
SPEAKER_01Well, how many do you have? I'm one of four. Oh, okay, okay. I was gonna ask because like um you were like you're craving companionship, and I was wondering because we hadn't talked about whether or not you had siblings, if that had something to do with it. Do you think that the guys that you dated though liked you, or was it kind of mutual from both ends where it's just like we just want to be around other people?
SPEAKER_02I think that they liked me to an extent, but not in the way that I wanted them to. But that's also fair because now in hindsight, I'm like, I didn't even fucking really make my mind either. So it's like and that's totally fair. But in my like at the time, I was like, I just want to be with someone, I just want to be cared for and everything. And like it just it wasn't real, and it's like just not what I wanted it to be.
SPEAKER_01What are your standards in dating now? So different versus when you weren't sober, and walk us through like if you have a dating horror story too, because it's LA girl. Oh, it's LA!
SPEAKER_02I be wishing people luck out here, and I have them, and I have all of them. Um God, I mean also something else that I want to note about the sobriety journey of I was trying to remember how to say something. I think getting sober, and this was a really big deal for me, which has now shifted my standards and everything now, was recognizing the red flags that I had within myself that I never addressed before. And I think that is now what has also shifted my dating history now. But um, wait, what was the original question? No, you're good.
SPEAKER_01It's um what are what is the what's a dating horror story? And what is your standard difference between the men that you would date when you were sober and the men that you're willing to date now?
SPEAKER_02My standards are so different. So with all that being sorry, my ADHD is always so all over the place. I'm like, what's going on? Same no, literally, but the standards, so before, because I was ignoring my own red flags, I would ignore red flags and other people and all that. I just was like kind of like if anyone like came up to me and I thought they were cute and we were interacting and like we laughed, like maybe once, I'd be like, okay, cool, I like you and you like me. That's not how it really works. Yeah. But now, in this whole transition of everything, and like, you know, I've done a lot of work on myself. I've worked on like my own red flags, like what I'm actually like wanting in a partner and everything. It's like so different where like I have like this like list in my head of like things, not like list, but I'm just like, can I just like date someone who's actually nice? And someone who actually makes me laugh. Like, I've notoriously dated people that have not made me laugh, and that is so crazy to think about.
SPEAKER_01That sounds horrible. It sounds awful, right? Because it is. You have to laugh.
SPEAKER_02You have to laugh. And I like, and even in my own therapy sessions, I would talk about like my past relationships when I was fucked up, and I was like, but we had these good times and everything. And she's like, Yeah, you were the fun part. Like you were the one like that that was fun. You were dating these guys who like no shape were kind of like bums, like they just didn't have a lot of stuff going on. So I think now my standards are just obviously so different. Like, I want to be with someone who driven first and like you have to have passion, like you have to have drive, you have to have something going on in your life that's different from like our relationship. Like, that's 100% a big thing to be with.
SPEAKER_01Individuality is so much more important than in relationships than people want to give credit for. And I think that when people get together, they're like, oh, you just have to do everything, which I do everything with my partner, but that's because we do the same stuff. You know, we do everything that's the same. But we still have a sense of individuality. Like he goes on trips with his people, his family, his guy friends. I go on trips with my people, my family, my homegirls. And we have like this life that's meshed together, but it's still separated by who we are as individual people. And we amplify that within each other. Like, I want him to go and hang out with his friends. He wants me to go and hang out with my homegirls and like do things outside of him. Because, like, I just don't think that you can have the healthiest relationship if everything you do is only involved like in your own sphere at home.
SPEAKER_02Totally. It's just like you gotta get outside. Yeah. And so that's another like that's so great because that's like companionship to me. Like, that is like we like respect ourselves, each other, and like we want to do other things, and like you encourage that within each other. I would date these guys who would like meet me, they loved like how outgoing I am, and that I'm doing comedy, and like, you know, I'm funny and stuff. But then eventually it would turn, and then that would be the thing that they didn't like about me. And they're like, I don't want you to go out with these people, and I don't want you to go out and do this comedy, and you're putting yourself out there. Like, so it became like this like weird switch up that makes no sense. Like, I I want to be with someone where I want them to like be like my number one fan, and I want to be the same for them. I'm like, I want you to go out and do this thing, and like I want you to get these opportunities, you know what I mean? And I think that was a thing that I experienced in the past where I had people who notoriously became my biggest hater.
SPEAKER_01What that you were dating? Yes. I feel like I hear that a lot. Like these big, outgoing personality women who are very driven and like aware of themselves and excited to live life. They get with a guy who falls in love with them for that. And then later down the line, he ends up resenting them for that. What do you think that switch is? Like, what happens in them that makes them realize the thing that they fell in love with you for is now a thing that you're kind of paying the price for in your relationship.
SPEAKER_02It's definitely resentment and insecurity of their own things that they haven't accomplished.
SPEAKER_01Oh, their own limitations. Their own limitations. I see.
SPEAKER_02And I because I was dating this guy who was kind of like getting stuck at he, his cycle was get a job, he would get fired, get a job, he would get fired, get like, and I'm like, how did I not see that as a red flag? Yeah, right. I don't know. But I was sort of getting to a point where I was getting a grasp on like, okay, I have to get sober. I want to start doing these things, I want to start bettering myself. And then, but he's not doing that. Was he not sober either? No, my God, we used to get fucked up together. It was like just putrid. It was so bad. He was the bartender. Oh who and it it's oh my god. It was I always think about the fact that like I my addiction was so do you know what chartreuse is? It's like a liqueur. There's no color, it's it's literally the color. It's like a green liqueur that you use to pour mixers and everything. And there's no reason to take shots of it literally ever, but we got to the point where we would start taking shots of it. That's how deep the addiction was. And I'm like, that's not a crazy lab because it's crazy. So that was the guy who was dating who was like this lead bartender, and it was just like he had not shit going on. Like he just like it was like the same cycle with him, and I and he was resenting the fact that I wanted bigger things for myself, and I wanted to grow and become like, and I'm I I don't know how much it played in it, but I was much younger than him, right? And I think he saw that and he didn't like that.
SPEAKER_01How old was he, if you don't mind me asking? Really? Yeah. How old were you at the time?
SPEAKER_02Twenty three girl, no, no, again, another red flag where I'm like dating this older guy who was like, and it's another he was like so into me at first, and then eventually, like all the things that he liked immediately hated at one point. And I think that to your original point, like that is why they get resentful because they can see that like and it wasn't even like the age aspect of it, but it was the fact that I was like, I know I want to do big things. I have I have these gifts, right? And I'm gonna do something with them.
SPEAKER_01And they're like, Well, fuck you. I feel like it is compounded by age though, because a lot of men getting in your if you're 30 with a 20-something-year-old young girl under 25, that's weird. That's so weird and predatory. I don't care what nobody says. I feel like that's a little predatory. And I think a lot of men who are that age and they have that great of an age gap with a younger girl, 23 versus what, like 31, something like that, they are hoping that you're more malleable. And the fact that you're like, oh, I can't be told what to do. I have goals, it's X, Y, and Z. This is what I'm looking for. I think a lot of men who love that young age gap dating do it because they want whoever they're dating to mesh or mold into who they are as a man versus becoming their own woman. And so when he started to see you become your own woman, he was like, I gotta, I gotta put a leash on her. You know, it kind of becomes that type of mama and it's not gonna happen.
SPEAKER_02Right. At all. Fuck no. And that's actually a good point because around that age, that's when when I was still getting fucked up, I was dating all the, like, usually dating guys that were like eight or nine years older than me. I don't know why. Yeah, yeah. Um, but there would always hit a point where they'd be like, Okay, well, you have to stop doing this. I'm like, you can't tell me shit. I'm gonna still do and here's the thing is like, actually, no, you can't tell me, yeah, no. I don't even know where I was going with that, but like, no, like here's the thing. No, like, because like, and I, and but that is so true. I feel like they want someone who is malleable. And I I look back at the person who I was in my like early 20s, like that, to the age that I'm at now, and it's like, I would never be with these guys ever. Because they were so weird, they're so controlling, they're fucking bums. I'm sorry that your life's not going the way you want it to. You are in control of your life, so you can change it. That's what I'm doing. Like, figure it out. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Do you feel like they ever try to sabotage like your sobriety journey when you were like, hey, I'm focused on this. I want to go do a comedy club, I want to go do X, Y, and Z. And they're like, let's take a bump. I let's take a shot.
SPEAKER_02It's I don't know. I mean, maybe with the one guy, like for sure, like I feel like, but also like we got so wrapped up in it that I don't even think that, like if there were times where I wanted to go explore something, he would just be like, right, nah, I don't think so. Yeah, but at the time I never thought anything of it. But so the the timeline of things too is after I ended things with him, a couple months later, that's when I got sober. And then I was sober for a little bit, and then I met up with him again, and we tried things again, and but that's when I saw like the difference where I was like, Oh, you're still in this mindset. I'm in a very different mindset, and I knew that he was gonna hold me back from trying to do like stuff like that, right? And because it again, it's just like a place of resentment. Like, I'm sorry you keep getting jobs and getting fired. Baby, I'm hitting the stage.
SPEAKER_01Period. I'm hitting the stage. Speaking of the stage, so we're in LA, you guys, surprise, surprise. Isn't everyone, but you're finna move to New York. So tell us about that. Tell us about like your journey to New York, where you're you want to tell us like where you're moving, because obviously, like safety first. But tell us about New York, girl.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so New York is happening, it's imminent, it's so crazy. We were kind of talking about it earlier, but like I'll just like rehash. Um, I have always wanted to live in New York City. New York City has been my truth for oh my god, the psychic. Yes, yes, we have to talk about this. Oh my god, grant you're gonna be.
SPEAKER_01She mentioned that she had like a psychic encounter, like you have a personal psychic that you go to, and she gave her some information. So, what did the psychic say?
SPEAKER_02Okay, so let's just like fast forward. So, long story short, I've wanted to be in New York for years. Anyway, I had the opportunity to move to LA, whatever X might be. So a couple of months ago, my friend went to a psychic and she was like, This girl is the shit. Like, I think you should go to her. And I was like, Okay, immediately, yes. Like, I have You're so brave. Well, I I've never been to one, but the actually the one time I went to a psychic was in Philly when I was shit faced, go figure. And I went and I like wanted her to tell me about like this like guy that I was like kind of into, and then she like told me kind of nothing, and then she's like, for 60 more dollars, I'll tell you more details. And my friends are like, No, we gotta go, we gotta go. And I was like, but wait, like, but I like him. But she told me such vague shit that I was like, oh my god, she knows everything. She was like, There's a guy, and he's in Philadelphia. I was like, How did you know? Meanwhile, I like told her everything before I got there, but whatever. Um so anyway, the couple months ago, right? Yeah, it was the time, but so my friend was like, go to the psychic, see like what happens. Like, I don't know. Cause I was just I a couple months ago, I was very much in this kind of like weird rut of like what's going on, like what's like happening. And like, fuck it. Like, I had the opportunity to go see a psychic. Well, actually, it was over the phone, but oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. So her request was like, send me a photo of yourself day of, and then we'll chat. And I was like, Okay, cool. So the psychic told me, mind you, months ago, she was like, Hey, in February, you're gonna get news that you're gonna move to New York City, and it's gonna be really big for you in terms of comedy, and it's gonna be kind of rooted in comedy. So, like, there you go. And I was like, Okay, well, that's kind of crazy, like, cool. A couple days later, actually, a couple days prior to that, I had gotten a reading from a friend because I don't know if you guys remember in October there was an Aries moon, and I don't know shit about fuck about astrology, but I know that it was a bad time. Okay. I was having a bad time, and so I asked my friend, I was like, What the fuck is going on? Can you read like my chart? Like, I just need to know what's happening. And she's like, Huh, do you have any plans on moving next year? And I was like, I mean, you're like, no, I was like, I want to go on tour, but like I don't have plans of moving. And she's like, Well, it looks like you're gonna move to New York and you're gonna be there February around that time, or like something in that vicinity. And I she's like, the beginning of the year essentially, and I was like, Okay. So that the psychic, and then shit, you not, two days later, my roommate randomly didn't know any of that information. She's like, I had a dream that you moved to New York in February.
SPEAKER_01Wow, girl.
SPEAKER_02And I was like, Whoa, this is crazy. Yeah. So that's your time. No, literally, it was nuts. So I was like, and three is like my lucky and favorite number. So the fact that I had three separate scenes like happening, I was like, okay, this is nuts. And then literally, like February 26th is when I got the call that I was gonna move to New York. And it was because they want me to like pursue comedy and like have the weekends off so I can do comedy. I'm literally gonna be in the epicenter of where comedy is. And yeah, it's kind of nuts. That's amazing. The guy that like I interviewed with literally was the one who was like made the executive decision. He's like, she's gonna have the weekends off. We're gonna put her here so that she can meet the right people. I and it's crazy because I work a corporate job.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And like he's in the corporate job, of course, but he literally was the one that was like, she's gonna pop the fuck off in comedy. I want to be a part of that journey for her. I know this job is not her life, but I want her to like do well with what she wants to really do. So he literally was like, let's put her here. She needs to have I mind you, in my adult career, I've never had Saturday and Sunday off simultaneously. That is so crazy to me because it's like because I've worked like restaurants, I got this job where I have to work on the weekends still anyway. So the fact that he's like, no, she's not doing that shit anymore. She needs to juicy mama needs to take off.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I can't wait for your I can't wait for your ascension. I'm gonna be watching, kind of like how they do the the SpaceX rockets when everybody's like looking up and they're all shocked. That's gonna be me at the bottom. Me in my juice box like taking off. Like literally God, I love that you like so her audience. She calls them juice boxes. Where did the name Juicy Mama come from?
SPEAKER_02Also, the gays in Miami in 2021. What tells that story? It wasn't anything crazy. I mean, of course, so as we all know, the pandemic in 2020, notorious. Like it was How could we forget? How could we forget? It was historical. Um, and um she, oh she, I, me, we went to Miami because in 2021, that's when like the flight stuff kind of lifted, and like everything, like whatever. And so we were living in Philly at the time, and a round trip ticket to Miami was like $70. And I'd never been to Miami. I was like, let's go to Miami. Right. Yeah. And I just like had the time of my life, and I was just out there being like messy, and it was so ridiculous, like the shit that we were doing. And so we were just going, I went with a group of friends, and we were going between like Fort Lauderdale and Miami, and then Fort Lauderdale was like very like gay and fun and everything. So we were going out there a lot, and then just the gays of Miami, like, I was shaking my shit, and they were like, Juicy fucking mama. And I was like, Thank you. And then we there it is. Me and my friends kept like being like, Oh my god, all these like beautiful women, like they're all juicy mamas, and then we all turned to me and they were like, Oh, but like you're the juicy mama.
SPEAKER_01And I was like, Thank you. Juicy mama coming to a stage near you. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited for you. I wanna ask, um, what are your plans? Like, what are you looking forward to about moving to New York? What are you excited about in the next two years?
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh, my next, my juicy.
SPEAKER_01Of the juiciest, mommiest life.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's gonna be nuts. Um, well, I'm excited for my return to the East Coast. I am an East Coast girl, born and raised, lived there for 23 years. So I'm excited to be back. Um, I specifically like New York has like been my like my like that's like where I'm supposed to be. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And like totally give that.
SPEAKER_02New York is fine. New York vibes. And I just like I really feel like I'm gonna grow a lot as a person and as a comic when I go there. Like, I really wanna push myself to like hit the stage every night. I want to really grow, I want to get better at what I'm doing. And I the LA comedy scene is amazing. I just I don't have a car and it's really hard for me to get around on it.
SPEAKER_01Because a lot of the big places are far as hell.
SPEAKER_02Far and then to go to different mics, it's just really tough. So I'm gonna be uh a Subway girl. Okay, for the train. Yeah, and so I think I am just looking to really grow, get a lot of stage time, kind of like take my podcast and bring it to like, you know, just yeah, I just want to like interview people because I was doing a lot of like street interviews and I was living on the East Coast, and it was just fun. Like, it's just like what we did. So I want to get back into that. So, like my game plan for the next two years is to just like really work on my craft and get better. And like I want to, I feel like I like really built a lot of really good roots here and just like took the name Juicy Mama and really like worked it, and like just was like this is who the fuck I am. And a lot of that has to do with like getting sober and everything. Like, I feel like I really get to like own the name Juicy Mama, and so I just want to bring that to New York and just be like, guys, Juicy Mama's here, you're all sexy, let's laugh and giggle, like this is what it's about, and then yeah, eventually just like blow up and see what happens. And I just want to make people laugh, and also with the sober stuff, I just want people to lack like feel good. You're gonna make people you're hilarious.
SPEAKER_01Do you think that like you're so like what inspired you to be a comic in the first place? Are you just naturally funny? You do have it though, and you're not situationally funny. I mean, you are, but you're also just funny too. Oh my god, thank you so much. Joke funny. There's some people who are just situ me, I'm situationally funny, but I could like not tell a joke. Girl, I could not tell a joke to save my life. You wouldn't be it'd be about something stupid, like farts or like poop, like something easy.
SPEAKER_02And I would laugh my ass off at that. Just letting you know, I would laugh my ass off at that. Because bring back whimsy. Like, let's be fucking, like, let's have some whimsy, let's giggle, let's be silly.
SPEAKER_01I'm so sick of how serious everybody is. We need to take a syringe filled with whimsy and inject it to everybody individually.
SPEAKER_02I would get hooked on that drug immediately. That ends our sobriety. Yeah, I would get hooked on that. I on whimsy. Um, that's so funny. Oh my god, but I'm so happy you asked this question about like what got me into everything because I love talking about it. I literally was eight years old and I watched and I wasn't supposed to watch it. I like put on Comedy Central and I was watching mad TV and I was laughing my ass off. I had no idea what the fuck they were talking about, but some things I was like, oh, that's funny. And then it like clicked for me in that moment. It's like, oh, this is what I want to do. Like, this is a lot of fun. Like, I want to like make people laugh. I want to like put on shows, like I want to perform. Like, let's work towards it. And so, and it's so funny because I have the worst social anxiety as a kid. Like, I like I could not go to like social gatherings, I couldn't talk to people. Like, if I went anywhere, I would like hide behind my family. And so that was a big thing where I was like, I'm like eight years old, and I was like, okay, I gotta like make a change.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and so then eight years old, she's looking at herself in the mirror. You have to make a change. Right.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm like, I need to be this person. So then I started like literally writing like the dumbest jokes when I was little and like talking to people and putting myself out there more, and then I started making like videos and stuff, and then it just took off from there, and then I was like, fuck, I need to, I wanna do this. And here I am.
SPEAKER_01I love it.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Do you have any jokes from when you were eight?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. I actually like I never throw out any of my journals. I've had journals since I was like a little kid. I actually still have my I did my first comedy show when I was 20, and I took I haven't done it for like I did when I was 20 and I stopped for like six years. Yeah. But I still have the napkin that I wrote down my bullet points on and everything. Oh my god. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You have to frame it when you're popping. I mean you're popping already, but frame it. No, it's so funny. All right, girl. That was like, I'm so excited for you. I'm so excited for you. Our last thing is that you're just gonna share whatever relationship advice you have to the people directly. So, what's your relationship advice you want to give them?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, this is so funny because I feel like I'm the last person that should give relationship advice. Um, I think my biggest thing for my own journey was um you will have to build a relationship with yourself and learn to love yourself, which I know sounds so cliche before you can love other people, but it is really true. Like, I feel like I now am in like such a better place because I feel like I'm more comfortable with myself and more confident with myself. And um, don't ignore red flags ever. That's a really big thing. And um I guess it's also like the little things. Just like have fun with the little things, enjoy that, and then yeah, be with somebody that makes you laugh. Oh my god, what the yeah, be with someone that makes you laugh because as someone who's notoriously been with people that weren't funny, be with someone that makes you laugh. It's so important. We have to laugh. Bring back whimsy.
SPEAKER_01Bring back whimsy. My relationship advice for this episode is gonna be kind of obviously inspired based on what we're talking about and you dating people that were trying to limit your shine. And Grant and I recently went to a restaurant and there was this older lady there. She might have been like late 60s, 75, something like that. And she was just talking about how bad her life went. She was like, I wanted to be a mom and I wanted to have this career, I wanted to have that. And her friend was sitting there next to her, and she said, Oh, yeah, well, you know, you you couldn't be a mom because of whatever the reason was. And she said, No, I could have been a mom. I just like kept having miscarriages and I couldn't keep the baby or whatever the situation was. And she was talking about how the husband that she had was also a factor in her not being able to be a mom because he kept making her get rid of him or something crazy like that, and how limiting he was to her life. So, my relationship advice for this episode is like, do not be with somebody that tries to put limitations on you. Don't be with somebody that sees how much you shine and then tries to like find where he can put you in a show. They, let me not say he, because the men think I hate him. Don't let them put you in a shadow. And don't allow somebody to fall in love with you for the greatest parts of who you are, just for them to resent you about those things later because they can't control you. That's gonna be my relationship advice for this podcast episode. Y'all need to follow Juicy Mama. So good.
SPEAKER_02I'm sorry, I'm having a moment like that's a big thing. Don't let someone dim your light.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02That would that wow. Don't let them dim it away. Ever.
SPEAKER_01I'm blown away by you.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, I'm blown away by you.
SPEAKER_01You guys become one of juicy mama's besties, become one of Juicy Mama's juice boxes, and you guys can be bestie juice boxes. I like it. Little collab, little collab audience. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with you. You're so funny. I'm like so proud to know you. I'm not gonna lie. Oh my fangirling. I've been fangirling. Every time you say something funny, I'm like, fuck, she's fucking hilarious. Fuck. Oh my god. But she's blown up.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, no, literally same. Did you did we even bring up how we met? Like and how this is full circle? Okay, we'll talk about it real quick.
SPEAKER_01You want me to tell him? Yes, yes. Okay, so Grant and I were going to this place. He was like, I found this really cool restaurant. It's called Pizzana. We should go there. Pizza's okay. But we went.
SPEAKER_03But the server was excellent.
SPEAKER_01The service was top tier. And so we were at this restaurant, and Juicy came over, and she was our server at the time. And like, just everything about you. I remember just sitting there and be like, God, she's cool. And I was like, what's your information? What do you do for the thing?
SPEAKER_02I was like immediately enamored by you.
SPEAKER_01Immediately. I was like, I love this girl. And I got her information, and we've been following each other online ever since. And then we remet again through one of our really good friends, Ashley. Ashley, you're my wife. I'm gonna listen to this.
SPEAKER_02She needs to know. She needs to know.
SPEAKER_01And so now we're like back meeting again, like in person, even though we've kind of met randomly throughout the few years. Oh yeah. But she did say, go ahead and tell them what you told me about like the first time that you were out here, and now that you're leaving, I'm like the farewell.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, you guys. From your perspective. Well, it's like because I met you literally like my second week of living in LA, and like how we just like I was like enamored by you, and like we just like were like giggling and having a good time, and you guys were eating the mediocre pizza, but like you were having fun with me. I do love their one pizza, it's amazing. It's like the fun guy, it's so good. Oh, yeah. So good. But um, but yeah, but you because I wanted to be in the film industry, and you're like, I just had this like this amazing documentary that just came out, and I was like, oh my gosh, like let's stay connected. And then we found Ashley, which was crazy. And then literally, when you were like, Do you want to be on the podcast? I was like, Yeah, well, I move in two weeks, and you're like, Okay, let's do it. I love that.
SPEAKER_01So I'm two weeks entry, two weeks exit. We yeah, yeah. Oh shit, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_02Crazy.
SPEAKER_01So that's the kismet. And your shit is gonna take off. And I'm so excited and blessed that you would do a podcast with us.
SPEAKER_02I'm blessed and honored. Thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER_01You're the best girl, of course. Okay, Ashley, we love you. All right, all right, besties. Go ahead, like, comment, subscribe, and follow Juicy Mama on all her platforms. It will be listed in the description of this video. We love you, besties. Bye. Stay juicy.