My Daughter Has an ONLY FANS- Listener Letters

Listener Letters

Besties, we've officially increased the Listener Letter episodes to twice a month, due to popular demand!
We've got some dilemmas here that we need to address and they are certainly things that a lot of people go through.. Well, except for the last one, that one is pretty unique.

As always, we get into it!
But FR for real we actually need to talk about how society raises women to date based on potential and not actualized partnership.

Here are the stories we jump into today:

1. It's been 6 years and my BF isn't pulling his weight
2. My ex was murdered and my boyfriend doesnt understand my gried
3. My daughter has an OnlyFans, am I a bad dad??

Thank you to the Besties who wrote in and were vulnerable enough to share their stories.
To submit your own listener letters, click here.

If you wanna watch our live reactions to this episode (which you should 👀), catch us on YouTube!

Besties, let us know what y'all think on this one!

-Grant & Aja

Besties, let us know what y'all think on this one!

-Grant & Aja

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

My daughter has an OnlyFans. Am I a bad dad? I'm a straightgoing girl.

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Women are working so hard in their relationships to make sure that things get done. There's so many men who are falling behind their women.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

You can't be with a man that's gonna rest on your laurels, girl. He might like being a house husband now. There will be a point in time where he starts to resent you for it.

SPEAKER_02 0:19

Guys have lower standards than women, just in general.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

I've been with my boyfriend for six years. He's not financially stable. What point do you stop believing in potential and start choosing yourself and your future? What's up, y'all? Welcome to the Hangin Out Forever podcast. My name is Aja Coven, your host, and I'm here with my boyfriend of eight or nine years. We lost count and co-host the one and only Grant Blackwell. What's up?

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Eight or nine years. Something like that. Something like that.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

We kind of lost the count. So some episodes I say eight years, some episodes I say nine years. We'll let you guys decide. You pick a number, it's fine. So we know we told y'all that we're gonna do listener letter episodes on the second Tuesday of every month, but we decided to run it up because we have gotten requests to do lips listener letters more frequently. So we will be doing listener letters at the first and third week of every month. First and third. Every other week.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

Let's make it simple.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Grant hates that about me.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

I always make things a little overcomplicated, complicated things and brand things, and she's just the best, isn't she?

SPEAKER_00 1:24

I don't feel like you believe that, but it's okay. I'll let it slide today.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

I believe it. But yeah, let's make it. Let's every other episode is gonna be listener letters where we've listened to the people.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

We've listened to the people.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

We're gonna we're gonna give you what you want. We're giving you what you want, best use. Make sure you guys like us too.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Make sure you guys, you know, give us, you know what I mean? It's the the attention that we crave.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Right. We're desperate for you guys to like us.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

So make sure that you guys watch the listener left listener letter episodes, but you're also watching our personal episodes. You can learn a lot from it. Um, maybe maybe it'll inspire you to remember things from your past that may inspire a listener letter.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Yes, exactly. Yeah, you guys, we're totally fine with giving you listener letters. We just don't want you to forget about us, you know, like and why we started this podcast was for relationship stuff. But keep sending us listener letters. We absolutely love it. But like Grant said, like, go watch our other stuff. Like, even if you don't watch it, give it a like. Let it play in the background for 10 minutes, okay? If you're a real one, let it play in the background.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Play the listener letter on another window and then just play the uh the other episode with muted, whatever you need to do. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

Yeah, but we have so many great things coming in the future of hanging out forever for you guys, for the community, and then for other people. We do have a dating show that's coming out, it's on the way. That's very exciting. So make sure you guys get to know us because you'll be seeing a lot more of us.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

We appreciate you guys for being here. We we love that you guys are interested in the listener letters. Asia's an amazing, amazing reader, and uh we know that you you love watching her read stuff.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Yeah, yeah. So we finna get an answer with okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

All right, let's just jump right in.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

It's the first Tuesday of the month. So we're starting your month off with listener letters. Grant doesn't want me to make it any more complicated than that. Every other episode, starting from the beginning of the month.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Every other episode. Starting from the beginning of the month. Sure, sure. Okay, all right, guys.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Okay, let's get into it.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

And once again, guys, yes, I have not read them. Asia has like skimmed them, kind of gone through them, not too, too uh in depth with it, but um, I'm going in blind.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

So totally blind. Blind reaction. Also remember that all of the listener letters that we read on our podcast are not from online. They weren't sent around. We didn't get them on Reddit. These people sent them directly to us. So, number one, we want you guys to know that all the listener letters that we get are 100% original as to our knowledge. Um, and then number two, if you hear any of the listener letters that you heard on this podcast somewhere else, just know that that creator probably stole them or unlikely, but still possible, the person that sent us the listener letter might have sent it to another podcast. Doubtful, but possible.

SPEAKER_02 4:02

And if you guys have something you want to share with us, send it in, please.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

And if you hear our listener letters on somebody else's podcast, tag us. Okay, yes, we love you. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Okay. All right. Hey, hanging out forever. I love when they do that. Hey, hanging out forever. I recently started watching your podcast, and I love what you guys talk about on the show. So I need some advice. I've been with my boyfriend for six years. We are in our mid-30s. I genuinely have love for him, and he is kind, supportive. Overall, we have a good time together and we've built a bond.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

So far, so good.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

So far, so good.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

But here's where I'm struggling.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Here's the but.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

After six years, he's not financially stable and it's starting to weigh on me in a way I can't ignore anymore. Now I'm not perfect, as two years ago, I decided to quit my job and go back to school to be a speech therapist. I started, I start grad in the fall. Period, queen. The arrangement was I go to school and he works, but he's not holding up his end of the bargain. As a lot of the time, I have to cover the home and myself with me being part-time income.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Oof. The resentment is building. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

I'm at a point in my life where I'm thinking about long-term goals like stability, having kids, marriage, maybe, and just building an overall secure life. I'm working hard toward my future, and I feel like I'm moving forward while he's kind of stuck.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Uh-oh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

It's not that I expect him to be rich or perfect, but I do expect growth, consistency, and effort toward being a provider or at least an equal partner financially.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

I've had conversations with him about this. And while he says he wants to do better, I haven't really seen that kind of change that matches the timeline we've been together. I have suggested school, career paths, and all I get is I want to be a truck driver, but I don't have a license.

SPEAKER_02 5:47

Doesn't have a driver's license or a you have to have a CDL to be a truck driver. It's a specific thing. Get it.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Yeah, go get it.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

Yeah, go get it. I want to be a truck driver, but I can't. Well, why? Because I don't have a license. So go get one.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

That's the one thing you gotta do.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

Yeah. Okay. Now I'm very supportive. I have found programs, give him money, but still three years plus later, I'm starting to climb my ladder and better myself. And it's like I have a kid that's constantly asking me, what are we going to do? Now I feel conflicted. On one hand, I love him and the history we have. On the other hand, I'm starting to feel like love alone is not enough to build the life that I want.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Am I wrong for feeling this way after six years? No. Am I wrong for feeling this way after six years? And at what point do you stop believing in potential and start choosing yourself and your future?

unknown 6:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

Now we're back to the potential talk.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Right now. Right now is when you start focusing on yourself and choosing your future. Grant, do you want to start?

SPEAKER_02 6:46

I think it's it's different because they're in their mid-30s.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

Where that's around the time that you should be, you know, settling into your stability.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

So that's tough. That's really tough. And he still is lost, and it seems like he's not really putting in the work that's needed to put himself in a good place financially. Or um he seems to have an idea of it with the trucker thing, but he's using the excuse of, I don't have this, I don't have that. Well, you gotta go get that. Right. You gotta, you gotta do the work and you gotta uh put the effort in. It seems like she's putting in a lot of effort. She's going to school and also taking on part-time jobs for the both of them. He needs to uh he needs to really step up, or he needs to either, you know, he needs to give up on the dream of the trucker situation and shift into something that can be quick cash, you know.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Truckers make a lot of money.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Yeah, they make a lot of money. What I find very interesting is the potential pipeline, you know, and there's a lot of women who are willing to date men on the what they could be. Yeah, there's a lot of women who are willing to date men on the cape the ability of their potential being realized or actualized. And I think that women tend to date, women do date more for potential than men do. Men usually want like kind of a finished package in some sort. Like she's beautiful, but she's going to school and she's working on that, or she's financially successful. Like men typically, when they look for women, that woman is maybe she's building herself in a way, but I don't think that men date for potential in the same way women do. Like a woman could date a guy that's not necessarily attractive and be like, all he needs is a girlfriend effect, and now he's a hottie. Whereas men don't really see women and think all she needs is a boyfriend effect, or all she needs is a little bit of confidence, or how to know how to dress or style or do her makeup. I think that men tend to date immediacy versus potential.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

And women tend to date for potential more than they date for what a man is bringing to the table right now.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

I think guys have just kind of lower standards than women too. When it comes to who their partner is and just in general, kind of. I mean, I hate to throw my boys under the bus, but I think just especially nowadays, I feel like I hear so much about women are, you know, they're working so hard in their relationship, they're doing all these things to make sure that things get done and that there's stability being uh, you know, grown in the relationship. And there's so many men who are falling behind their women. And I mean, I don't know what that is. I mean, maybe it's because women feel more than ever that they have to kind of take the reins on things, so they just naturally fall into that position um more more so often than it used to be. And so men are, you know, their pride and their ego are kind of getting in the way, and they're like, well, if she's gonna take the reins on them, on this, then you know, that's gonna throw me off. And who how am I supposed to step up if she's stepping up? And women are just beating men to the punch in that in so many different ways.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

I think that women are raised generally with more responsibility than men are. They are, you know, women immediately are taught you have to be this way, you have to look out for yourself, you have to look out for men, you have to look out for danger. Yeah, you can't present yourself this way in public because then that might invite danger to you. So women are just reared to be more fully aware and actualized by uh at a younger age. And because of that, we are more conscious and conscientious of decisions that we make because women are constantly being injected with responsibilities as they grow up. Especially like if you're an older sibling, like if you're the older daughter, then you are given the responsibility of your siblings. And like women are women are typically tiny mothers. Yeah, women have always been little tiny mothers. We're that's just I think what society is.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

So people are seeing how hard women work. So women are being chosen over men in a lot of situations in the workplace nowadays because they get things done.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

Women, women get it done, babe.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Wild women do, women get it done.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

But let's go back to we are talking about the disparity between her and where she's at and her man. Like being a speech therapist is like really hard work. Yeah, shout out to her, she's gotta go to school to do that. But I think that there's an issue with women who date for potential because you might love this guy so much, but potential is only gonna get him so far, and potential does not always become actualized.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

I think that he needs to show, he needs to show up in some type of way. Yeah, even if it's not towards something that's going to make him a lot of money in the future or something like that. Even if it's something that he's passionate about, but he puts time and effort and work and puts all these things into it, that at least shows that he has potential to work hard. You know what? I I understand, I get it, I get what you're what you're thinking right now. But I'm I'm just saying that's where that potential usually comes from, is that you see this person being uh passionate at least, and they're working hard towards their passion. Well, it wasn't. I'm listening. What does that face?

SPEAKER_00 12:18

I think it just depends on what the passion is because if I'm going to school grinding, floating the household, making sure bills are paid for, and taking care of me as well, and your passion is building Legos. Well, that's the thing, too, is and you're really good at it, but you can build a freaking Millennium Falcon.

SPEAKER_02 12:35

If he builds a bunch of different Legos and then he starts recording himself and putting it online and it gets millions and millions of views, and now he's got brand deals with Lego. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 12:44

No, but that's not most people aren't doing that.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

I know, I know. I'm just saying, I'm just saying that, and this also is I'm saying this uh in the case of he's not in his mid-30s because that's a 30-year-old man playing with Lego. At that point in your life, you need to have a hard pivot, yeah, and you need to go get that damn trucker's license, or you need to go get that um job that you're gonna hate.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

I think that like Grant was saying, but be but do you uh do you get what I'm saying though?

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Of like people can see potential in people when they actually have passion and hard work, even though it might not be towards something that is going to make you a bunch of money or something like that. You can still see that he works hard if he needs to and can get things done if he needs to.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

But that would just piss me off. Because that means that means he works selectively. You know, I think that there's so many women that date men for potential because women are reared from a young age to be little tiny mothers, to be responsible for for things at a young age and to always be fixing things and to be aware. And so because women have this over, because women have this heightened awareness that we've been socialized to have, I think it makes us a lot easier to date for a potential because we understand that as a woman, the bar for our expectation for how we should live and move through life is so high, versus men who just like respectfully kind of just get to exist. You know, as a woman, you are taught you have to be classy, cross your legs, keep your legs closed, don't get pregnant by a random guy. Um, don't wear that, don't say that because that could get you hurt, don't wear that because that could get you graped. You know what I mean? Like women have to be so hyper aware of everything around them. Be responsible, be financially um uh have financial literacy, don't overly depend on a man. Where I don't think that men are taught not to depend on other people because so many women are being taught to be dependent on.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

I think women are trusted with bigger responsibilities at a younger age. Yes, yeah when you think about it. Because how many, how many male babysitters are there? You know the the old like, oh, the uh 13-year-old that lives in our neighborhood, the 13-year-old girl is gonna be taking care of our child while we're sure that was date night. You know, there's no little boys out there being you know, uh babysitting somebody for date night. I think that uh women in general from an early age are just trusted with more responsibility and trusted with bigger tasks. And so you grow up with that mindset, and these tasks, these these life things that you have to do as an adult don't look as scary and as intimidating. Where with men, I think it takes men longer to adjust to being an adult and to being responsible. You know, you like you go to you see um the dorm room of a girl in college is a way different situation than the dorm room of a man in college.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

You know, one is disgusting and filthy, and one is one is actually probably cleaned up and uh and you can tell that that person had some responsibility. Um and I think it nowadays, I don't know what it is with men, but it it's getting tougher and tougher for men to really focus and lock in and do what we need to do for our responsibilities in life and take accountability.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Yeah, I just think that as a society, we we infantilize men because we're so busy raising women to be responsible for so many things that it allows men to not have to think of responsibilities. Like men, like boys get to have such a good time, you know, they get to have such a good time growing up. The whatever the balls drop or whatever, your voice gets deeper, you hang out with your homeboys, you do crazy stuff in the neighborhood, but like women are going through a different level of puberty that that requires an incredibly more sensitive level of awareness. Yeah, you know, and so because women have to be, even as young girls, we constantly have to be aware. Like, I remember when I was a child, and this is going off topic a little bit, but I remember when I was a child and my boobs were first coming in, it was like a very embarrassing thing because the talk was men are gonna start looking at you now. Boys aren't told that when as boys age, their whole thing is it's more of like their whole mindset is grounded in hunt. Go have fun, go hunt the fun, go hunt the women, go hunt the food, go hunt the opportunities, go hunt the good time.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Um thoughts or our own things, you know what I mean? Like we have to restrain, we have to restrain while women have to be more aware.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

Yeah. You know, yeah, well, restraint, I don't feel like men are taught restraint. I don't think that young boys are taught restraint, which is why I think so.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Yeah. You you think to a certain extent, like if you get angry, don't lash out on somebody, don't fight somebody physically.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

I think you were taught that. I don't think the average boy is not lashing out on other boys. But but we say we say all that to say that there is an increased responsibility in women from a young age that I believe allows us to be more accepting of dating potential because we're so taught to be everything from childhood age that we don't necessarily expect men to have to pull the same weight in adulthood.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

And I think that this is reinforced in society where it's like, oh, well, he's a man. People are always making, oh, men are dumb, oh, men are this, men are that. But it's like, no, we just have a culture that infantilizes men and makes women feel as if they have to be overly responsible for everyone around them because women are raised to be relied upon.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

And I think that that's why it's so much easier for us to date someone with potential, is because we're always trying to fix things and we're always trying to build things. All the any men watching this, don't come at me with a not all women, duh.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

I know obviously it's not all women, it's not all men, but back to the the the um letter, I think it's it's tough because of their age. Yeah, it's tough because of their age, and he should be in a better position.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

And if he's not showing any growth at this time, immediate growth, then yeah, you need to, you need to kick him to the curb.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

And then you know, mid-30s, and you're going to school and you're helping this man with rent. Mm-mm. This man sounds like a couch potato, and you need to kick him to the curb, like Grant said.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

He should be finding all these random little jobs that he can make as much money as possible. He doesn't need to be making a bunch of money, but enough to sustain himself at least. If you're having to provide for him, he needs to be able to sustain himself at this age.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

And it sounds like the things that you want in your life aren't really on the radar for him.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

Because a man that just wants and wants and wants, but doesn't go out and tries or attempts is not gonna bring anything to the table at any point in time.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

It seems like he doesn't even have a clear path for what he wants. Yeah. You know, he he thinks he wants to be a truck driver, but he doesn't actually want it because if he wanted it, he would go get a license.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

You know, I just don't think he wants to exert the effort.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

That's what it seems like. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

And like, we love that you're supportive, but you're not wrong after feeling that way for six years. Grant and I kind of went through something similar, but you were always on your grind. You weren't just at home doing nothing. Exactly. But like there was a period of time in our relationship where what Grant was doing wasn't bringing in the income that I thought it should be bringing in. But now he's doing great, you know.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Because I had that work ethic and I and I stuck with it.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

But he showed promise. And I don't want to say that, like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Promise and potential are two different things.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Are they? You should explain that. I'm not sure. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Promise comes with okay, this guy knows what he's doing, he knows how to work hard, he knows how to focus.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

If you don't know how to focus, you don't know how to work hard, but you're good in some things, like maybe you're a good boyfriend, like you're you're really sweet and really nice and kind. Um, that's potential. But promise is like, oh, he's gonna do what needs to be done.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Yeah, I agree. And I just don't think that you can build if you've with if you've been with somebody for six years and you're still not fully certain if you could build a life with them, I'm gonna have to say the answer is no. Like, if you don't think you can be with this person long term, there was a few years in our relationship where I was like, I don't know, like could I build a life with this guy? Like, I don't know, right? And I would say up it was around our sixth year, but we started dating really young. You know what I mean? We're not in our mid 30s, so the stakes are different, you know. Talking about pregnancy and childbirth, and like both of you guys are getting up there, and we found out scientifically that men's sperm does age, so it's not always the women's fault. So he's getting up there too. And I think that like when you have goals that far surpass that of your partner, that's not Always bad as long as you have a partner that is supporting you in the things that you're doing, but not being an anchor or a paperweight to your life. I think that that's a big difference. Definitely. So I I would say it's time.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

Or seriously consider. Yeah. Seriously consider. Or what do you want from the relationship? Do you want a guy that's just going to be an at-home stay-at-home guy? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

If that's what you want, then he seems perfect for that.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

He seems perfect for that. Yeah. But if you want somebody who's going to work hard, because it seems like they had a um, you know, they had discussed that he would be working, she would be going to school, and that ended up not working out. So I don't think if he's not trying to provide for you in that way, then he's probably not going to try very hard in the relationship in general.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

And you can't be with a man that's going to rest on your laurels, girl.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

That's never going to work out because he might like it now, he might like being a house husband now or a house boyfriend now, but there will be a point in time where he starts to resent you for it. Not all men think this way.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Probably will.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

So not all men think like that, but he sounds like he would.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

So hopefully, yeah, hope, hopefully, our advice helped in some type of way with that.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

I say it's time to move on personally. It doesn't sound like that guy has this guy has that many upsides.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

No shade. What do you guys think? Let us know in the comments. What do you think she should do?

SPEAKER_00 23:20

Yeah. Okay, guys. Now we're moving on to the next one. My ex from a long time ago was murdered recently. Whoa. And it's been a big shock to my system because we were we went through a lot together and he literally saved my life at one point.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

I'm currently in a relationship of a few years, and my partner showed up to support me when I was in deep depression because of the news, which was nice. But we never really talked about it or my ex. It's been a few months now, and I'm still upset over it. We got in an argument about something irrelevant, honestly, due to my jealousy over some girls he's been friends with, and he brought up how I can say so many good things publicly about my ex, but I've never done the same for him. He was talking about a eulogy post that I posted out of an attempt to show my ex's humanity after his name was dragged publicly after his murder. What does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_02 24:11

Maybe like he was, you know, a gangbanger or something. Like he was murdered. It seems like he was murdered. So maybe people were dragging him.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

Well, yeah, she said murdered.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Yeah, but maybe people were dragging his name because maybe he wasn't like, you know, the best guy or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Oh, okay, okay, okay. I'm just wondering how other people would go about this. Should you just hide your grief for your ex for the sake of your current partner? Or is there a way to explain to them that the grief is nothing to be jealous over? My heart truly broke the day I found out my ex was murdered. I wish I could cry to my partner about it and have him understand.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Wow. Real. That's tough. That's a tough situation.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

That's super tough. Yeah. Um, I think that the only thing here that does raise a little bit of concern is that you say a lot of things publicly about your ex, but it seems that you don't say the same things publicly about your current partner. And I can totally understand as the current partner being hurt by that. Because, you know, perhaps there's a specific reason you and the ex didn't work out. However, I'm sorry for your loss. That is terrible.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

And I'm also sorry for his family. I'm sure they're going through it. But I think that when you don't outwardly express your love and your affection for your current partner while also mourning your past love, it does come across as if your current partner, I can understand how your current partner might feel like a placeholder in your life.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

And how it might be incredibly difficult for them to be receptive of your grief because they don't know where they stand on that playing field against your ex.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Did she say for clarity? That's how I think. Did she say how long the gap in between there was I she said a couple of months, like her and her new partner have been together for a year?

SPEAKER_00 25:53

So her ex from a long time ago was murdered recently.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Um, so okay, so I'm in a current relationship of a few years.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

So they've been her her and her new partner have been together for a few years, and the ex was from a long time ago. She didn't say how long.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

He passed away. And he passed away while they're together.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

While she's with her new man.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

Gotcha. Okay. I I was thinking that she was with him and he passed away.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

And then she got with somebody new, maybe a little bit further down the road. But okay, that's that's a different situation.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Oh, you thought her boyfriend passed? Yeah. Knock on wood.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But um, that's that's different. Um yeah, I mean that's that's still tough, but it seems like he still, you know, meant something to her.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Even even though if they were just friends or whatnot, because that's an ex. Um you know, and I mean, time will time will get you past the grief.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Um but I can kind of I can see where the the guy is coming from too, of like, you know, it it seems like you still had maybe feelings towards your ex. And then now that he's passed away, it's almost feels like um, you know, you could pa you could have possibly gotten back with him, yeah. If he was still, you know, alive. But I don't know, it that's tough because you want to be there for her too, because I'm sure that she's very upset about it.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

But how awkward would it be? Like, it's okay crying over your ex. Like, I understand where both parties are coming from. I do think, however, when you're crying over your ex, it's probably because you didn't have the amount of closure that you need. But just because you're no longer with somebody does not mean you don't love them anymore to some capacity or to some degree.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

And that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

And I think that that's okay too. Like, like, I don't think it's fair that when people break up with their partner, their ex-partners, whatever, that the assumption is you don't care about them anymore, they mean nothing to you, they can get hit by a bus tomorrow. But there are a lot of like when you're really deeply intimate with somebody, it's not easy just to turn it off and to move on. And when that person, I was gonna say taken from you, but taken is probably more accurate. When that person's taken, it's jarring. Like losing anybody that you've been intimate with is jarring. I have not personally had that experience, but I would imagine that it'd be very difficult to heal from that, especially if there's things in that relationship that transpire that you feel bad about. And now you'll never be able to get that closure because they're gone. And you might not have ever gotten that closure anyway, but just knowing that they're alive is closure in and of itself, versus now they're no longer around and there's all these unsaid things and these feelings that you haven't fully been able to process.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

It could probably put some intrusive thoughts in your mind of if this could happen to this person that I dated, then it could possibly happen to the person I'm dating now.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

It makes you think of Yeah, it makes you think you're involved.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

No, I mean definitely, and yeah, and I guess it also depends on what the the gap there was, like I said before, of how long uh ago did she date that guy before she started with this new guy. You know, if it was if it was recent, somewhat recent, yeah, or if it was like, you know, some a a whole boyfriend she had 10 years ago, you know, there's kind of a difference. It seems like she still had a connection there though, um, whether they were still friends or murdered is intense. And then murdered being taken from like that is murdered is really intense.

SPEAKER_00 29:33

Yeah. So sorry for your loss. I it's jarring. Yeah. If anybody in the comments has any advice for this, she does say, I'm wondering how other people would go about this. Should you hide your grief for your ex for the sake of your current partner, or is there a way to explain to them the grief is nothing to be jealous over? I think that's both. I definitely think that there's a conversation to be had about there's nothing for you to worry about. It's just jarring. Like, imagine, you know, maybe put it in perspective for him where it's like, imagine if I was in this situation and put yourself in this situation but knock on wood. Let's knock on wood again.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

We're knocking on wood for your girl.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

I I think I think she should be able to grieve how she grieves. And I think that if she's with somebody who's understanding of that and patient with her, then you guys will get through it.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

But what's your timeline? What's your threshold? Like, imagine I only got one ex that I actually think is a good guy who I'd be sad if they passed. Ooh, that sounds shitty. Well, the other one, if something happened to him, I'd be He was a bad guy. He was a terrible guy. He was a bad guy. The other one, if something happened to him, I'll be like, wow, that took a long time.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

He was a good guy. He was a good guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

No, no, the good one.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

I know. I'm saying there's a bad one and a good one.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

If something happened to the bad one, I'd be like, wow, that took longer than I expected. Yeah. I'm sorry. I should say, that's just how he is.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

He's horrible, but she's got a good one, and that would be sad if something happened to him.

SPEAKER_00 30:49

But what's your threshold? Like if something happened to him and I found out and I was like super sad about it.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

What's your threshold? What's your timeline where you're like, okay, wrap this grief up?

SPEAKER_02 30:59

I mean, I mean, at this point, we're so locked in that as much time as you needed, we would get through it together. You know?

SPEAKER_00 31:07

That's really sweet.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

We would, we would. Um, but I mean, it's been a little while since you guys have seen each other, so I would be surprised if it took, you know, a s a long amount of time to get over something like that. But I mean, yeah, I know that you have some like regrets and you still needed some closure from that situation.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

It wasn't great.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

So I think that would be tough for you.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

But I think time heals all.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

I think this girl will get through it uh eventually. And if this is the right guy for you who can be patient and be there for you, then he'll be there.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

But uh the last thing I will say is being able to publicly speak proudly about somebody that you're no longer with when you don't do that about your current partner is a pretty big issue. Yeah. And that would be difficult for me. Like if you and I were together and your ex passed away, knock on wood. I don't want to put that on nobody. But if you never spoke um positively about me in public, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, my ex passed away, and I haven't seen him in 12 months. Remembering all of these memories, and then you were mourning about it, I'd be sensitive to it, but I'd also be like, Why are you talking so great publicly about this girl? And you've never said anything great publicly about me. That would totally make me feel a type of way. So I think that there's a conversation that needs to be had between you and your man to get to a common ground about why you don't speak about him publicly. And maybe that's why he feels insecure about you mourning your ex. Because I don't think that it's unfair for him to feel his emotions insecure in mind as well as your griefs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

But make sure he's keeping your emotions in mind.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Right.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

Goes both ways.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Okay, so we have one more listener letter, y'all. And it says, My daughter has an OnlyFans. Am I a bad dad? I'm gonna straight go with no. I'm straight. Okay, what's your what's your what's your jump reaction?

SPEAKER_02 33:08

Um that would be really tough for me if I was a father and my daughter wanted to do OnlyFans. I would do everything possible to make sure she did not go down that path.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

So immediate reaction.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Yeah, he's a bad dad.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

I don't think he's a bad dad. I don't think he's a bad dad, but I I gotta hear more. I gotta hear more.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

I'm gonna say no. Okay. Hey, Asian Grant. Hello. Hey, Asian Grant. I 48M, am a father of three, two daughters and one son. My eldest daughter is 25. Her mom and I do well financially, but she's always been the type of girl who marches to the beat of her own drum. She recently decided she wants to live internationally for the next three years and pretty much do and go wherever she wants. Rome, Romans fantastic. Go there. Rome, Spain, Lebanon, Australia, et cetera. Wow. She wants to do the whole nomadic thing, which her mom and I are huge supporters of. I love that she's following a path in life that is calling to her. I don't care what she does as long as she's happy. That's sweet. I know it's great. Her mother and I opted in to help her, of course, but again, she loves her independence and decided to do it on her own, considering that we're paying for her brother and sister's way through college, and she doesn't want to be another financial responsibility for us. So, being the consenting adult that she is, she decided to start an OnlyFans. She was very open with her mother and I about this. She sat us down and ran through her entire plan, which I honestly appreciated. She said it's mainly PG 13 stuff and nothing hardcore, and that she found this weird kink vein of feet, farts, and lingerie. She's being trash.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

Yeah, yeah. She seems very responsible. You know what I mean? She seems she seems like a good one.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

She decided her kink lane. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

She seems very organized.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

IDK, for me as her dad, it was TMI. But within her first two months, when she first started, she had already made 5K, which is pretty great money for pedicure foot shots and Taco Bell farts, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

This is pretty, this is pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

As long as she's not doing full nude stuff, I really don't worry. I'm not the kind of guy to judge anyone for their line of work, especially when they're doing what it takes to follow their dream, which I wish I had been brave enough to do myself when I was her age. Anyway, she's been doing it for about six months now and has already made enough to live and travel freely overseas, upwards of 40K.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

There you go. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

But here's the real problem, and it's kind of a big one. Ever since she started, she's more open about it than I would prefer. And she doesn't shy when people ask what she's doing. My wife's sister and her husband have had a lot of opinions about it, saying they would never let their daughter do such a thing and that I'm a disgrace as a father. She and her husband are heavy in the church. Ever since they found out about our daughter's OnlyFans page, they've been obsessed with trying to monitor our pairing, our parenting, texting the family group chat, blasting my daughter's business online to shame her out of it, and even coming by our house unannounced to speak with us and harass her.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

See, that's wrong.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

That's wrong.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

They've involved many members of the church into the issue in an attempt to have them pray for her. But funny enough, ever since they've amplified the issue, she's told us her subscriber count has increased.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Of course. Of course it has.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

We assume it's many of these church members who are, quote, paying praying for people. The shame doesn't bother her, but maybe it bothers me. I don't want people thinking that my daughter is some lost soul charity case who needs religious sympathy or pressure to live right. Anyway, I've had a lot of people tell me I'm a disgrace as a father, and all I want is for my daughter to do whatever she wants in a world where people are constantly telling women who and what to be. But sometimes I wonder if in supporting her through this, I'm a bad dad while trying to be a good one. Would love your advice. Am I a bad dad? No.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

I don't think you're a bad dad.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

I don't think so at all.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

No, I I don't think you're a bad dad. I think that's a tough situation, though, because he's probably not online as much as you know his daughter is. So he's seeing all this lashing out from all these people, and it's probably over-stimulating him, and he's probably getting defensive of her. You know, it doesn't seem like it's a selfish thing of, oh my gosh, I'm so embarrassed of my, you know, for me. He seems like defensive of his daughter, saying, I don't like the idea of all these people coming after her for what she does. But I I I it's tough. It's it's only tough too because you know, she's doing something that's very light right now with the taco farting and right now.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

That's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

But that is a slippery slope as she gets more comfortable with OnlyFans, and I'm sure people are gonna start wanting and needing more to subscribe, and so she might turn that PG 13 into a rated R. You know, that can I feel like happen quickly. Yeah, especially if she moves to Europe and she's like, This is more expensive than I thought. You know what I mean? I gotta start doing more. I gotta start doing more to keep up with my lifestyle. Yeah, um, because I I think that probably happens a lot with people with girls that do OnlyFans. But he he seems like a good dad, though. He seems like he just wants the best for her, which is really sweet, and um, it really sucks that you know his family members are coming after her in that way, yeah. But they're in the wrong too, because they're so judgmental and they're putting her on blast, but they're also advertising for her too, which is hilarious. But you know, multiple things can be wrong, multiple people can be wrong in this in this situation.

SPEAKER_00 38:58

I don't think that the dad is a bad dad at all. I think, like, in order for your daughter to open up to you about doing OnlyFans and being like, hey, mom and dad, this is what I'm doing because I don't want to put any more financial strain on you guys. I don't want to be your responsibility, I want to do my own thing.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

That's really considerate.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

It's so considerate, and even though her own thing might not be what people find socially acceptable, the fact that she has a relationship with both of her parents that she feels so comfortable and safe to tell them that she's doing something that most women and men who are doing it hide away from their families, yeah, is incredible to me. Like I think that that's very inspirational. Not you should do OnlyFans, it's inspirational, but to have that level of transparency and communication with your parents is great. And me guys, I'm not gonna hate on nobody getting a bag, okay? Especially the swerve girlies, okay? Swear.

SPEAKER_02 39:53

Well, you know, it's in a lot of these situations with these um porn star only fans girls, it seems like a lot of them do have good relationships with their families. You know, because I think when that check starts coming in, no, yeah, they let a lot more go.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

It's a lot easier to get with it when you start to see how much money starts.

SPEAKER_02 40:13

Bonnie Blue and the Lily Phillips girl, they both talk about how they have such strong relationships with their family, and their their parents are totally cool.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

I think that you have to, honestly, like to be in the sex work industry, not everybody does. Like, that's just a it's a huge privilege to have parents who support you when you're in that lifestyle.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Yeah, because it's especially the stuff that they do.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

I know, yeah. But I mean, like, Taco Bell farts is hilarious. Yeah, like I wish I was brave enough to do that. I had this guy that I I went to high school with, and it wasn't until 10 years after high school, or like seven years after high school, he hit me up and he was like, I always used to stare at you in class because I was obsessed with your butt. I'm like, where's this going? Who cares? He's messaging me on Facebook. I'm like, I don't give a shit about this. What? What are you telling me this for? And he was like, I was always staring at your butt because I wanted to smell your farts, and I constantly imagined you sitting on my face and farting on my face. And he'd be like, Can you send me farts in a jar? And I was like, five bands. And he said, Oh, my sister is sick and she's dying. Block. Yeah, he ain't gonna waste my five bands.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

Can you get a little tootin jar? Little tootin' mason. That's crazy. Yeah, no, but I said got farts question mark.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Yeah, got farts. I like label the jar with whatever I ate that day.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

Oh my god, talk about chalupa, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

No, but yeah, but seriously, there's a big bag in that.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

No, I know there's a lot of people that are into that weird type of stuff, which is funny because they talk about these people trying to put them on blast at the church, and all the churchgoers are like, You said chalupa farts?

SPEAKER_00 41:48

That's not a surprise to me, honestly. So I I don't know if y'all know this. A lot of you guys are new. I've worked with a lot of people in the sex work industry, and I have like clients and friends who make crazy bags doing things you could not even imagine. All that like dominatrix stuff is real, all that dungeon stuff is real, all that somebody's daddy is being led around on a leash by a dom mommy is real. And I think that people don't understand that like there's this full underground society of like kink and and things like that. So a lot of people hear these stories and they're like, nobody's gonna buy farts. It is a huge market.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

Some people surround their whole life around their kink. There's a lot of people that do that. But I will say, like I said before, you know, I think he's a great dad. Yeah, but your daughter getting into that type of industry, it can be a slippery slope. And that's the only thing that I would be afraid of if my daughter started doing it. If she said, Oh, it's harmless, I'm taking pictures of my feet and my farts or whatever. I I would be worried of where it could go in the next couple of years. Like I would need, because it seems like she came to them with a business plan and a structure. I would need, what are you gonna be doing outside of that?

SPEAKER_00 43:04

A contingency plan.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

Yes. Yeah, what's what's plan B? Because there needs to be a plan B here.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Could how would you feel though if your daughter was an OnlyFans?

SPEAKER_02 43:15

I would do everything in my power to make sure that she didn't have to do that. Like, I would rather just take care of her financially than her go down that route. And and I will be like, you know what, you want to be a DJ or something? Like, I'll buy you turntables. You know what I mean? I would just like I would fund whatever creative idea, random idea they had in their mind to make sure that they didn't go down that route.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Do you feel like you would look at your daughter differently? What if it's just what if it's just foot fetish stuff and Taco Bell farts?

SPEAKER_02 43:48

And Taco Bell farts. I same thing. Like I would be worried of where it's gonna um advance into in the next couple years because you know that that industry is is in. Always rapidly expanding industry, and there's oversaturation and all those things. You know, I think there's a lot of people joining that stuff now more than ever. So you need to do things to stand out.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

And you need to to promote that stuff, you have to have a personal Instagram. So you're not going to be able to hide any of that stuff. You know what I mean? Like if you want to actually make money through that, you're going to have to be very transparent with your actual life. You can't really draw a line in the sand of this is who I am in my personal life and this is who I am on OnlyFans. You have to be both now. There's like no trans, there's it's complete transparency now. So I would make sure that they understand that that if you're gonna start putting that out there in the world, people are going to be able to see that forever.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

Yeah. I would be concerned if my daughter chose to do that, but um I I wouldn't be I wouldn't be angry at her. But I wouldn't be angry like I I have a I I have a I have a boundary, I think. Yeah, like I'm all for the girlies and stuff like that, but I do think that if my daughter was trying to go to full service, she was trying to give it all up. I'd be like, um, that's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

What can we do? What can we do? You want to be a DJ?

SPEAKER_00 45:13

You want to be a DJ? But no shade to the girlies that do do that. Like, I'm not, I'm not anti. I just don't see me being like, hell yeah, daughter, get the bag, unless it was foot stuff and taco bell farts. But I I mean I have a really successful friend who's a dominatrix. Yeah. And if my child was doing what she does, I wouldn't, I don't think I would. That girl has so much autonomy and so much control over her life in the scenario she puts herself herself in. So it'd be it'd be difficult for me because I wouldn't have that clarity. Because I'm like, what do you know about this industry? Do you have any experience? And so if my daughter did it, I'd be like, I need a I need a weekly, how you doing? What's going on?

SPEAKER_02 45:55

I I would just suggest other um career paths that you use your body, like being a model or being a entertainer in some type of way, you know what I mean? You want to be a singer, dancer, um, certain things like that. I would entertain that first or introduce that first, or be a uh like a streamer. No, I was gonna say a streamer. I I would rather her be like a a kiddie pooled Twitch streamer. Do you know what those are?

SPEAKER_01 46:24

No.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

Like all the all the dorks on Twitch, they hate these girls for it because they get the most views and the most subscriptions. Yeah, but it's usually just girls in a bikini sitting in a kiddie pool and they stream and they just talk about random, they talk about random stuff and but they just you know what I mean? They're just like in a bikini.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

Barting?

SPEAKER_02 46:45

Yeah, like it's not it's not as sexual. Like that, that's a very specific kinky type of sexual thing that they're fulfilling. Where on Twitter, they're just you know, kind of almost or Twitch, they're almost just like modeling in a way. It's different. It's different.

SPEAKER_00 47:02

I I see the difference.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

I do think there's a difference. There's a difference. Like you saying, oh, I'm a streamer on Twitch is way different than saying, Oh, I'm a creator on OnlyFans. You know what I mean? That just perception-wise, there's a huge difference, and I think you can transition into a different into a uh career path a lot easier by if you gain if you gain a lot of Twitch streamers and Twitch, I see. If you if you gain a lot of Twitch subscribers and you know, all of a sudden you want to transition into not doing bikini streams or whatever, you can easily go into a different field.

SPEAKER_00 47:38

Yeah, yeah. That's very interesting, and that's kind of a good point. Yeah, it's hard. I think he's being a great dad. I think he seems like a great dad.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

I being a bad dad would you saying to your daughter, you're going to hell, get out of my house. That is a that would be you being a bad dad. Yeah, that would be you being a bad dad. And that's that wouldn't be the Christian way, to be honest. Well, that wouldn't be the the way that Jesus would take.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

Yeah, Jesus wouldn't do it. But I th I thought this was very interesting.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

That is an interesting story, you know.

SPEAKER_00 48:15

I thought this was very interesting. I think the people who are most in the wrong and who should be most ashamed are the uncle and the aunt. Yeah. Like for airing her out to the church. When you know them, old crusty men are gonna subscribe.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

For sure.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

That's free promotion. Good for the girl.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

They're like, what's the link, by the way, so I can go shame her.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Yeah, I'm trying to give me the link so I can make sure no one ever sees this.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

But I mean, I think that there is a good, healthy conversation here to be had around sex work, and I'm glad that they're able to have it. Um, there are a lot of women who go down that route. I think that her not being in survival mode as she transitions into like, into like the sex work world is coming from more of a position of power and autonomy, just because there are a lot of people who get into sex work because they're trying to survive out of necessity and they don't have as much wiggle room to say no or to set their boundaries because they need that money. So they're a lot more times willing to do more for it. Um, so I think that that is a positive of this scenario is that she is opting in to it versus it being her versus it being her only option. And there are some girls out there, we're talking about the girlies. Um, there's men who do sex work too, but there are some women out there who do sex work and it does change their life for the better. Yeah. But I do think that there is a huge difference between survival sex work and opting into sex work as an option.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

For sure.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

So I think that that's an important distinction to make because she's not coming from the same place. She has a privilege to make this choice. Whereas there's a lot of women and men who don't have a privilege.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

I think it makes a difference too of my thinking compared to the dad's thinking, because he what he said in the story was, I wish I followed my dream when I was younger. I wish I did this. So he has regrets. Where it'd be different with me and my daughter because I don't have regrets. I followed my dream. And so I think that's why maybe I wouldn't be as open to it.

SPEAKER_00 50:17

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

Because, you know, I know that she can make it some other way. Like she probably has some other dream. I'm assuming that her goal in life isn't to just be an OnlyFans creator. Yeah. You know, I'm sure she has other goals, probably creative goals, because she seems like a really creative person who wants to travel and do all these amazing things. And so I would rather she go down the route of um finding out what those may be first.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

Yeah. I mean, the last thing I'll say is I really appreciated how sensitive he is to women. Where he literally said, People are always telling women who and what to be. And I don't want to be one of those people that forces that on my daughter. Seems like a good dad. Seems like a great dad. You can feel free to set your boundaries, let your daughter know. Don't take it any further than the taco belfarts and the foot pedicure photos, you know. But shout out to the uncle and the auntie for up in the up in the auntie, up in the subscribe, up in her bag. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

But that's gonna be it for this episode of the listener letters.

SPEAKER_02 51:16

Yeah, that was good. That was great.

SPEAKER_00 51:18

That's gonna be it for this episode of Hanging Out Forever. Listener letters strictly from our community. Make sure that you guys like, comment, subscribe on this video. How do you feel about your daughter being an OnlyFans girl? What if she was drawing the line and talk oh bella farts and pedicure photos? Maybe she's sending some toenails in a bag to some random John in Mississippi. You don't know. You don't know, you don't know what she does. Maybe she made 10k off them nasty little toenails. Maybe, maybe for her. But y'all let us know what you think about these stories. If you have any relevant experience, feel free to drop them in the comments. Even if you don't, feel free to drop your opinion. Who cares? And then if you do want to leave us a letter, the link is gonna be in the description of this video. And we'll see you on the next one. That's peace.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

Peace, guys.

SPEAKER_00 52:04

That's good.